Episode 182: Epic Soundtrack Songs Crossover Part 2

Episode 182: Epic Soundtrack Songs Crossover Part 2
Part 2 of the "EPIC Soundtrack Songs Crossover" episode continues... This week Pat and Co-Host Mike Siegel welcome Tyler Smith and David Bax from the Battleship Pretension Podcast to join them in playing songs from their favorite movies.
From January 8, 2014

With your hosts:

Pat Francis

Mike Siegel

00:00:00 Pat welcomes us to the show. This episode is PART TWO of a special crossover episode with the Battleship Pretension podcast. Today's guests are the hosts of the podcast, David Bax and Tyler Smith!
David and Tyler, respectively
The boys are drinking some brewskis tonight, except Mike has his in a plastic lemonade cup, the heathen. Pat's a lightweight, so he's keeping it easy. Tyler doesn't drink. And no drugs… currently. Now Mike Siegel on the other hand, hoo boy. He insists he's only done cocaine once in his lifetime, but we know the truth… WE KNOW THE TRUTH!!! David used to be a raver, so he knows ecstasy. Is there a good rave movie? A movie called Groove, it seems.
00:05:00 If you would like to listen to PART ONE of the crossover, you can CLICK HERE. When we last left off, we were talking about favorite/meaningful soundtrack songs. And we've been playing some Siegel Stinkeroos too, of course. On a side note, Pat was listening to morning radio and heard a "Santa Cos Is Coming to Town" song parody. Oh Bill, what a naughty boy he's been.
David starts us off. Trent Reznor does film scores now, but in the 90s he was a soundtrack supervisor for films like Natural Born Killers and this film, Lost Highway. David plays "The Perfect Drug" by Nine Inch Nails. Lost Highway stars Bill Pullman and Patricia Arquette. It's a weird David Lynch film, which is a bit of an oxymoron.
00:10:00 Robert Blake is in the film too. As in, alleged murderer Robert Blake. Did he do it? Pat doesn't think so. He was acquitted, so we'll see if Baretta ever pulls an O.J. and goes to jail anyway. David says Natural Born Killers and Lost Highway have unique soundtracks. And of course Reznor won the Oscar for Social Network. Tyler thought David was gonna go with "Closer" from the movie Se7en. The director of "The Perfect Drug" video is Mark Romanek, he also directed One Hour Photo and Never Let Me Go. So much movie and music trivia, this crossover is absolutely gangbusters. Kyle is a big NIN fan, but he's not around to hear it. Pat's the one doing the heavy listening today and we're all excited to see him stumble.
00:15:00 Tyler's first pick is a movie that Pat and Mike have never seen called Nashville, directed by Robert Atlman. He plays "My Idaho Home" by Ronee Blakley. Ronnie was the mom in the original Nightmare on Elm Street. She also wrote the song, as the other stars of the movie did for their songs. It's a legit country song. Nashville is a long movie, but Pat is motivated to watch it.
Pat's first pick is by friend of the show Stephen Bishop. It's the theme from the Dustin Hoffman movie Tootsie called "It Might Be You".
00:20:00 Tyler was thinking of another Tootsie song that plays during a career upswing montage that goes "Go Tootsie Go." Yeesh. David brings up songs in movies that sing the title of the movie. The new Tim Burton film Big Eyes has one, for example.
It's time for Mike to play his first pick. It's his third episode in a row, the lucky duck. From the Coen Brothers movie O Brother, Where Art Thou?, Mike plays "Man of Constant Sorrow" by The Soggy Bottom Boys. The soundtrack was very big; it won a Grammy for Album of the Year, for Pete's sake. Pat's never seen the movie and he wants a logline, because Pat is a Hollywood executive with a cigar in his mouth. "Tell me what this picture is about, boys, and make it snappy. I have a dinner engagement with Cary Grant in half an hour."
00:25:00 It's based on The Odyssey. George Clooney breaks out of prison with John Turturro and Tim Blake Nelson in the 1930s South and has to get back to his wife. Speaking of Coen Brothers, Mike has tried watching The Big Lebowski a million times, but just can't get into it. Same with Pat. The Inside Llewyn Davis soundtrack also tried to capture lightning in a bottle, but it didn't grab the people like the Brother soundtrack. "Put a pin in that one," says Tyler.
David's next pick is from the John Cusack movie Grosse Pointe Blank. The song is "Mirror in the Bathroom" by The English Beat.
00:30:00 The soundtrack came out at the height of the ska revival. The song plays during a scene where John Cusack stabs a guy in the neck with a pen, which David and Tyler recreated for a short film in college. Cusack has been in some good movies lately, like High Fidelity and Being John Malkovich. He was recently in a movie called Grand Piano, which is basically Speed on a piano.
America's treasure Bill Murray is in Tyler's next pick, Broken Flowers by Jim Jarmusch. He plays "There Is an End" by Holly Golightly with The Greenhornes.
00:35:00 There was an Ethiopian Jazz movement at the time of the film, apparently. I would know nothing of such musical tastes. Jarmusch is good at blending traditional score and pop songs. The movie is about Bill Murray seeking five ex-lovers in search of a long lost son. Murray's recent movie St. Vincent: Thumbs down from Tyler and David, thumbs up from Pat. Pat thinks it's like Uncle Buck and no one knows how to respond to that. Naomi Watts got a SAG Award nomination for playing a Russian hooker. Tyler is confused by it. Mike says two things get you a nomination: a good accent or a beautiful woman who goes ugly.
00:40:00 The next film is an animated movie that Pat did not care for called Frozen. He plays "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" by Kristen Bell, Agatha Lee Monn, and Katie Lopez. The song is about how Elsa can't leave her room to play. Mike saw the movie on a plane for his niece, who is obsessed with it. Everyone likes the movie, but really, who cares? It's a regular Disney kids movie. It's got all the features: cute characters, music, rock trolls. If you've seen one rock troll in a Disney movie, you've seen them all.
"Elsa has AIDS."
- Pat Francis, married with kids
00:45:00 We've got some crossover, because Mike's next pick is the Dustin Hoffman movie Midnight Cowboy. He plays "Everybody's Talkin'" by Harry Nilsson. "Nilsson Schmilsson," says Pat. Har dee har har. Mike says Midnight Cowboy hasn't aged well. It was rated X at the time, but it's actually pretty tame in comparison to now. It came out near the beginning of the modern ratings system. X just basically meant 18 and over. Pat uses the ratings system as a hard line with his kids. He also never swears around his kids. Ol' Pristine Mouth, they call him in these here parts of town.
00:50:00 Midnight Cowboy took place in late 60s New York, which was the dirtiest, grimiest place on Earth. The Hoffman "I'm walking here" line was an ad-lib because a cabbie didn't know they were shooting a film. Jon Voight was Tyler's least favorite actor, but he's only seen the middle age Jon Voight and older. He's never seen The Champ, Deliverance, or Coming Home. Nothing for Tyler but Bratz: The Movie and Anaconda.
David brings some hip hop to the program with his next pick. The movie is Warren Beatty's Bulworth. David plays "Ghetto Supastar (That Is What You Are)" by Pras Michel feat. Ol' Dirty Bastard. R.I.P. O.D.B. Dirty actually raps the plot of the movie, which is helpful. Bulworth is Beatty's second to last film.
00:55:00 His last movie was the stinker Town & Country. It cost a lot and made a little. Why is Warren done? Dementia rumors, perhaps. Same rumors maybe for Jack Nicholson. They are the same age. Wait a minute, I think I'm on to something. Someone call the National Enquirer, I've got their next story.
Tyler's next movie is one that David hates and he thinks is just fine, but everyone else loves it. Pat hates it and Mike never saw it. The movie is Drive. It's got a good start, but it peters out. Tyler says the film is a bit monotone, but it's got a great soundtrack. He plays "Nightcall" by Kavinsky feat. Lovefoxxx. Pat does not care for Bryan Cranston in movies lately.
01:00:00 This includes the recent Godzilla movie, although Pat didn't like the movie in general. He wanted more Godzilla. Tyler is a fan of movies scaling back on special effects. Going back to Drive, "Nightcall" is the song he associates the most with the tone of the film. Drive is a good L.A. movie. Nightcrawler is another one. Pat isn't a Jake Gyllenhaal fan, but he's been really good lately.
Up next for Pat is the soundtrack king, Kenny Loggins. Pat plays "I'm Alright" from the movie Caddyshack. Caddyshack is the best. THE BEST. This movie put Rodney Dangerfield into the stratosphere.
"No respect, no respect at all. When I was a baby, I was breastfed by my father."
01:05:00 When Rodney was shooting on the first day of the movie, he got upset because no one was laughing at his lines. No respect. Would a Rodney Dangerfield biopic be welcome? No, says the gang, they would fuck him up.
Mike compliments that Martin Scorsese. He always finds a way to sneak The Rolling Stones into his movies. But Mike ain't playing no Rolling Stones, he's playing some Aretha Franklin. From Scorsese's pitch perfect masterpiece Goodfellas, Mike plays "Baby, I Love You". Scorsese is very good at putting music in his film.
"In Wolf of Wall Street, [Scorsese] used 'Movin' Out' in a way that I forgot Billy Joel was terrible."
- David, with the line of the episode.
David goes indie again with his next pick, The Virgin Suicides. He plays "Playground Love" by Air.
01:10:00 When David and Tyler were living together in Chicago, that soundtrack got a lot of play. Mike and Pat also used to shack up together in Chicago. Well isn't this a wonderful coinkydink. There's some Chicago talk between the four, which I can transcribe for you: Deep dish pizza. Cubs. Cold. I think that's how it went, I wasn't really paying attention.
Getting back to Inside Llewyn Davis, which is Tyler's next pick. The studio wanted an album that would generate buzz. It's a good album, but it didn't make that big a bump.
01:15:00 Tyler plays "Fare Thee Well (Dink's Song)" by Oscar Isaac. We got ourselves a Rock Solid tie-in: Murray's wife is a costume designer on every Coen Brothers movie since Fargo. And she's Oscar-nominated, thank you very much. Tyler is actually a 5-time podcast awards nominee. The awards are a huge joke, they mean nothing, and to be nominated is utterly worthless. His words. Unless of course you win, in which case they are a boon.
Pat's next pick is another friend of the podcast, Lisa Loeb. He plays "Stay (I Missed You)" from the movie Reality Bites.
01:20:00 Mike did not care for Reality Bites. The song was a nostalgia rush for David. Lisa Loeb looks EXACTLY the same. Mike says Reality Bites was just a bunch of whiny people. The other big 90s movie of that type was Singles, which also had a big soundtrack.
We return to Mike Siegel and we also return to Dustin Hoffman! It's the soundtrack to The Graduate by Simon & Garfunkel. Mike plays "April Come She Will". David never got into Simon & Garfunkel until he saw The Graduate. It's the power of movies.
01:25:00 Art Garfunkel's voice is still kicking around. Paul Simon is the heart, Art Garfunkel is the soul. Tyler says he won't cry at Paul Simon, but he would cry at Simon & Garfunkel. Art has had paralysis of one vocal chord. Ouch. Pat tells a fun story. Penny Marshall dated Garfunkel at the time of the '81 Concert in Central Park. Art wore a toupee for years. So did Paul. For the concert, Art didn't want to wear the toupee, but Paul demanded that Art wear it.
David's next pick is for the nerds. It's "We Are Sex Bob-Omb" by Sex Bob-Omb from Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.
01:30:00 Mike applauds them for trying to make a Scott Pilgrim movie. Pat was too old for the movie. Old man Francis was not getting what the hip kids were giving.
"Video games. Harumph."
The next movie on Tyler's list is a new one called The Guest. David and Tyler both saw and enjoyed it greatly. It's a throwback to old 80s thrillers and the way they used music.
01:35:00 Tyler plays "Haunted When the Minutes Drag" by Love and Rockets.
Pat's next pick is from the movie Empire Records, which has a lot of different music in it. In fact, there are more songs in the movie than on the soundtrack. Pat plays "Til I Hear It from You" by Gin Blossoms.
01:40:00 Pat gives some apologies to Blondie for "Call Me" from American Gigolo, Lindsey Buckingham for "Holiday Road" from the movie National Lampoon's Vacation and Rod Stewart for "That's What Friends Are For" from the movie Night Shift.
Mike gives his apologies to the soundtrack for The Harder They Come and to Cameron Crowe and his movies. His last pick is from Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction. It's "You Never Can Tell" by Chuck Berry.
01:45:00 David's honorable mentions, of which he has a lot:
  • "Didn't I (Blow Your Mind This Time)" by The Delfonics from Jackie Brown
  • "Sometimes" by My Bloody Valentine from Lost in Translation
  • "Holding Out for a Hero" by Bonnie Tyler from Footloose
  • "Dyslexic Heart" by Paul Westerberg from Singles
  • "Burn" by The Cure from The Crow
  • "Lose Yourself" by Eminem from 8 Mile
  • "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly from Manhunter
  • "The End Is the Beginning Is the End" and "The Beginning Is the End is the Beginning" by The Smashing Pumpkins from Batman & Robin
  • "Girl, You'll Be a Woman Soon" by Urge Overkill from Pulp Fiction
  • "Damn It Feels Good to Be a Gangster" by Geto Boys from Office Space
  • "The Times They Are a-Changin'" by Bob Dylan from Watchmen
  • "Take My Breath Away" by Berlin from Top Gun
  • "24 Hour Party People" by Happy Mondays from 24 Hour Party People
Tyler's honorable mentions go out to "It's Your Thing" by The Isley Brothers from Out of Sight, Curtis Mayfield and the Superfly soundtrack, Aimee Mann's Magnolia, Guy Ritchie for the soundtracks to Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch, South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut, and Team America: World Police.
Plugs for the people! David and Tyler's podcast can be found at BattleshipPretension.com. You can e-mail them at david@battleshippretension.com or tyler@battleshippretension.com. David is on Twitter @thepretension and Tyler is on Twitter @tylerpretension. David has a TV podcast with former Rock Solid guest Paul Goebel called Hey Watch This!. Tyler has a film review podcast through a Christian lens called More Than One Lesson.
Tyler's More Than One Lesson podcast recently reviewed Kirk Cameron's film Saving Christmas. It's the worst user reviewed film on IMDB. Why? Because it's a horrible, horrible film.
01:50:00 The lights come on and the awestruck masses leave their audio theaters. In other words, the show is over. Pat takes us out with "Footloose" by Kenny Loggins from the movie Footloose.
Time Song Movie Artist Who
00:05:00 The Perfect Drug Lost Highway Nine Inch Nails David
00:15:00 My Idaho Home Nashville Ronee Blakley Tyler
00:15:00 It Might Be You Tootsie Stephen Bishop Pat
00:20:00 Man of Constant Sorrow O Brother, Where Art Thou? The Soggy Bottom Boys Mike
00:25:00 Mirror in the Bathroom Grosse Pointe Blank The English Beat David
00:30:00 There Is an End Broken Flowers Holly Golightly with The Greenhornes Tyler
00:40:00 Do You Want to Build a Snowman? Frozen Kristen Bell, Agatha Lee Monn, and Katie Lopez Pat
00:45:00 Everybody's Talkin' Midnight Cowboy Harry Nilsson Mike
00:50:00 Ghetto Supastar Bulworth Pras Michel feat. Ol' Dirty Bastard David
00:55:00 Nightcall Drive Kavinsky feat. Lovefoxxx Tyler
01:00:00 I'm Alright Caddyshack Kenny Loggins Pat
01:05:00 Baby, I Love You Goodfellas Aretha Franklin Mike
01:05:00 Playground Love The Virgin Suicides Air David
01:15:00 Fare Thee Well (Dink's Song) Inside Llewyn Davis Oscar Isaac Tyler
01:15:00 Stay (I Missed You) Reality Bites Lisa Loeb Pat
01:20:00 April Come She Will The Graduate Simon & Garfunkel Mike
01:25:00 We Are Sex Bob-Omb Scott Pilgrim vs. the World Sex Bob-Omb David
01:35:00 Haunted When the Minutes Drag The Guest Love and Rockets Tyler
01:35:00 Til I Hear It from You Empire Records Gin Blossoms Pat
01:40:00 You Never Can Tell Pulp Fiction Chuck Berry Mike
01:50:00 Footloose Footloose Kenny Loggins Pat