Episode 172: We Love Alice!

Episode 172: We Love Alice!
Pat and Guest Co-Host Lisa Goich celebrate Halloween by professing their love for the original "Shock Rocker" Alice Cooper!
From October 30, 2014

With your host:

Pat Francis

00:00:00 Pat welcomes us to the show. We begin immediately with some Kyle Dodson relationship news. He was engaged for a month to his girlfriend, but she broke up with him. Her reason? Well, Kyle is still trying to figure that part out. Here's hoping he gets the ring back. Kyle assures us he feels fine, but just in case he gets depressed and wants to fill the void with a tub of ice cream, he should read a book called The Breakup Diary. After all, it was written by today's special guest co-host: it's the multi-talented Lisa Goich!
Pat gives us a little info on Lisa. He first met her 25 years ago. They're good friends, but they practically never see each other. They keep in touch on Facebook, like when both of them got colonoscopies. Kyle says that he got a colonoscopy too! Are colonoscopies that hip new trend everyone is doing? If so, sign me up and spread my checks. Pat, Lisa, and Kyle bemoan the awful gunk you have to drink the night before to clean your colon. Yummy.
00:05:00 Anyway, some more background info about Pat and Lisa. Pat first met Lisa while on tour with comedian John Heffron. They met somewhere in Michigan and Alice shared with Pat her love of today's topic: Alice Cooper. Lisa has always loved Alice Cooper. She went from Donny Osmond to Shaun Cassidy to Alice Cooper. Alice isn't a teen heartthrob by any stretch of the imagination, but he cleans up well. Lisa's parents were worried by all the Alice posters on her wall. A loose and wild friend of Lisa's named Janet got her into Alice Cooper. Lisa wanted to please Janet by listening to Alice, but then Lisa started to actually like Alice Cooper. On a side note, Lisa was once put in a barrel with dog shit and then rolled down the street by a bully.
00:10:00 Lisa came to LA in 1996 and had some cool jobs. She worked for Carole King, whom she met through her husband Teddy Andreadis. Teddy sang lead vocals for Slash's Blues Ball. Lisa was going to introduce the band at an event. In a very funny moment, Lisa went up to Teddy thinking he was Slash because she assumed Slash was the name of the lead singer. Teddy asked her out for breakfast, but he didn't call her for about five days. Lisa complained about him on her radio show, Teddy called up and apologized, and the listeners voted to let Lisa give Teddy a second chance. Lisa dates Teddy, they get married, and then Teddy gets the call to go on tour with Alice Cooper!
00:15:00 Lisa was beyond excited. Lisa met Alice once at a radio event years before. She was so elated at meeting him, she kept smiling throughout the day. Pat felt the same way with Melissa Etheridge. Now Lisa is meeting Alice all the time at rehearsals. Lisa's first Alice Cooper concert was during the School's Out tour. She was 10 years old, and its odd to think of a 10-year-old at an Alice Cooper concert, but then you realize this was 1972, so, you know, par for the course. Lisa was confused as to why Alice wasn't singing the same words as on the album. In hindsight, Alice was drunk. A Detroit newspaper left a scathing review about the concert. Lisa wrote a rebuttal to the editor defending Alice. Adorable. A few years later, Lisa saw Alice again during the Welcome to My Nightmare tour. At this point, she is MAJOR crushing on Alice.
00:20:00 The lead dancer on stage was a ballerina named Sheryl Goddard. Lisa was a ballerina at the time, so she was instantly jealous. Alice and Sheryl started dating. Lisa became more jealous. Alice and Sheryl got married. A THOUSAND TIMES JEALOUS!!! Cut to years later, Lisa is meeting Sheryl, who is still married to Alice. Sheryl is the sweetest person ever, but Lisa still feels that jealousy.
The Portrait of the Alice as a Young Man
Pat and Lisa saw Alice in concert together at the House of Blues. It was an intimate show and Pat was amazed at the crazy stage antics. Lisa also got Pat and Jimmy Pardo tickets to see Alice, The Knack, and The Donnas. She helped Pat get Lita Ford and Elliot Easton for the show. She's a wunderkind! Pat doesn't want to abuse this relationship. At this point, I would like to use the Force on Pat and say "Abuse the relationship. Do it, make her get famous people on this show." Speaking of famous people, Lisa was at a barbecue with Mike Campbell and didn't know who he was. Pat was dumbfounded that the only thing she talked to him about for three hours was dogs.
00:25:00 The first time Pat ever heard Alice Cooper was on a greatest hits album. After that, he started to collect as many Alice albums as he could. Originally, Alice Cooper was the name of the band, and not just the name of the lead singer. The members included Alice, Glen Buxton, Dennis Dunaway, Michael Bruce, and Neil Smith. Pat plays a song from their first album Pretties for You called "Reflected". That song would get rewritten as "Elected," which became a hit.
00:30:00 Pat next plays a song from the second album, Easy Action, called "Refrigerator Heaven". The first two albums are a very different sound than Alice's usual fare--it's weird and psychedelic--but you can tell that there are elements that will appear in later songs. Pat says that if you just heard those first two albums as your introduction to Alice Cooper, you probably wouldn't like him.
Alice got catapulted into stardom with his third album, Love It to Death, which was produced by Bob Ezrin. Pat plays the opening track, "Caught In a Dream". This is when the Alice sound really develops. Pat notes that depending on the song, Alice sings in three different ways. He plays another song from the album, his early hit "I'm Eighteen".
00:35:00 Lisa's favorite Alice Cooper song is off of Love It to Death. It's called "Is It My Body".
That same year, Alice released another album called Killer. Yes, bands used to release two studio albums a year. There's a song on Killer called "Dead Babies," which is really creepy. When Alice gets creepy, he sings about real stuff. Pat plays a song called "Be My Lover". Pat's parents thought Alice was devil music, but that song is so sweet and romantic.
00:40:00 Up next is a big breakthrough for Alice, School's Out. Pat plays the title track, "School's Out". In that song, Alice wanted to capture the three minutes before school lets out for the summer. Well, he certainly got it. Lisa picks a song off of School's Out called "Gutter Cat vs. the Jets".
The next album, Billion Dollar Babies, is another big album for Alice. Pat plays a song called "Unfinished Sweet".
00:45:00 Lisa has her own pick from BDB called "Generation Landslide".
After four albums in a row with Bob Ezrin, Alice switched things up with the next album Muscle of Love, produced by Jack Richardson and Jack Douglas (who also produced Aerosmith). Pat plays "Never Been Sold Before". This is a little heavier sound than before. Side note, Jack Douglas also worked a lot with John Lennon. Pat plays two more songs from this album, "Muscle of Love" and "Teenage Lament '74".
00:50:00 By 1975, it wasn't Alice Cooper the band. It was just Alice Cooper. The other guys in the band are gone. No infighting, Alice just wanted to do his own thing. He loves horror movies, vaudeville, the theater, so it was only natural that he would do his next few albums, Welcome to My Nightmare and Alice Cooper Goes to Hell, in that style. Alice here is more of a character than a musician. Off of Alice Cooper Goes to Hell, Pat plays "Go to Hell".
Alice and John Lennon, 1974
Lisa loves the next album, Lace and Whiskey. It's basically Detective Alice Cooper. Her pick is a song called "It's Hot Tonight". This was the last Bob Ezrin album for a while. In the meantime, Alice's career gets A LOT crazier. He works with producer David Foster on his next album, From the Inside. Foster has worked primarily with pop acts like Bee Gees, Prince, and Michael Jackson, so it's odd that he would work with Alice. The songs on this album were co-written with Bernie Taupin, Elton John's songwriting. In the Super Dooper Alice Cooper documentary, it seems Bernie played a role in Alice's cocaine addiction. Goodbye Yellow Brick Road? Well, hello White Powder Avenue!
00:55:00 From the Inside is a concept album about Alice's experiences in an insane asylum. Pat plays the song "From the Inside". There are a lot of guest musicians on this album: Steve Lukather, Rick Nielsen, guys from The Elton John Band. This isn't one of Lisa's favorite Alice albums, however. Pat plays another song, "Wish I Were Born in Beverly Hills". Lisa is friends with Steve Lukather, because of course.
The next album is 1980's Flush the Fashion. It's very different than what you would expect from Alice Cooper, because it's very new wave. Pat plays two songs, "Clones (We're All)" and "Pain". This is definitely a sleeper gem in the Cooper canon.
01:00:00 Now we enter a very rough period for Alice: The "Blackout" Years. Alice was so fucked up on drugs at the time, he has ZERO recollection of recording and touring the next three albums. Pat says that the albums aren't good, but there are still a few hidden gems. Off the first album Special Forces, Pat plays "Who Do You Think We Are" and "Prettiest Cop on the Block". Off the second album Zipper Catches Skin, Pat plays "Acceptable (Anything for You)". There is footage of Alice on The Tom Snyder Show and he looks horrible. It's amazing to look back at it because he's so clean now. His wife actually filed for divorce from him because his addiction got so bad, but he got clean and they stayed together.
Alice at his absolute worst on The Tom Synder Show.
01:05:00 The last album in the Blackout trilogy is DaDa. Pat plays a really creepy song called "Former Lee Warmer". Creepy, creepy stuff. Pat plays another song off of the album called "No Man's Land".
Alice leaves the music business for three years, gets clean, and then comes back in 1986 on MCA Records with an album called Constrictor. Kip Winger actually plays bass on the album before he made it big on his own. Constrictor is certainly a heavy metal album. Alice was embracing the metal because it was really popular at the time. Pat plays a song called "Crawlin'". Lisa knows Kip Winger. Not only is he incredibly handsome, but he's also super nice. Damn you Winger and your perfect body and soul!
01:10:00 The next album is called Raise Your Fist and Yell. Lisa picks a song called "Gail". Pat plays a song called "Give the Radio Back". Now Alice is back in business, getting an audience, and becoming a cultural icon. Everyone wants to work with him. The next few albums have a lot of guest musicians. Trash has Steven Tyler, Joe Perry, Jon Bon Jovi, Joey Kramer, and Steve Lukather. Pat plays a hit song off the album called "Poison". Then he plays another hit, "Feed My Frankenstein" off of Hey Stoopid. Hey Stoopid has Ozzy Osbourne, Mick Mars, Slash, Joe Satriani, and Steve Vai, among others. Murray wanted everyone to know that "Feed My Frankenstein" was in Wayne's World. Hey Murray: WE KNOW!
Welcome back, Alice!
01:15:00 Lisa picks a song from Alice's 1994 album The Last Temptation called "Lost in America". Pat loved that song the first time he heard it on the radio and couldn't wait to buy it.
Between 1994 and 2000, Alice didn't release any new studio albums. Then in 2000 and 2001, Alice released two industrial metal albums, Brutal Planet and Dragontown. They are very heavy albums. Teddy was playing in the live band at this time. Pat plays "Brutal Planet" off of Brutal Planet and "Sex, Death and Money" off of Dragontown.
01:20:00 Alice's next album, The Eyes of Alice Cooper, is one of Pat's favorite Alice Cooper albums. Teddy actually plays accordion on the album. Pat plays a song called "Novocaine". We speed through the last few albums: Dirty Diamonds, Along Came a Spider, and his most recent album, Welcome 2 My Nightmare, which is a sequel to Welcome to My Nightmare. Pat plays two songs from the album, a funny song called "Ghouls Gone Wild" and a creepy song about abuse called "When Hell Comes Home".
01:25:00 Pat gives out some plugs. You can find Lisa on Twitter @LisaGoich and her website lisagoich.com. Thanks again to Lisa for coming in and talking so much about Alice Cooper!
Lisa gives us today's closing song. She plays "Detroit City" off the album The Eyes of Alice Cooper.
Time Song Album Artist Who
00:25:00 Reflected Pretties for You Alice Cooper Pat
00:30:00 Refrigerator Heaven Easy Action Alice Cooper Pat
00:30:00 Caught in a Dream Love It to Death Alice Cooper Pat
00:30:00 I'm Eighteen Love It to Death Alice Cooper Pat
00:35:00 Is It My Body Love It to Death Alice Cooper Lisa
00:35:00 Be My Lover Killer Alice Cooper Pat
00:40:00 School's Out School's Out Alice Cooper Pat
00:40:00 Gutter Cat vs. the Jets School's Out Alice Cooper Lisa
00:40:00 Unfinished Sweet Billion Dollar Babies Alice Cooper Pat
00:45:00 Generation Landslide Billion Dollar Babies Alice Cooper Lisa
00:45:00 Never Been Sold Before Muscle of Love Alice Cooper Pat
00:45:00 Muscle of Love Muscle of Love Alice Cooper Pat
00:45:00 Teenage Lament '74 Muscle of Love Alice Cooper Pat
00:50:00 Go to Hell Alice Cooper Goes to Hell Alice Cooper Pat
00:50:00 It's Hot Tonight Lace and Whiskey Alice Cooper Lisa
00:55:00 From the Inside From the Inside Alice Cooper Pat
00:55:00 Wish I Were Born in Beverly Hills From the Inside Alice Cooper Pat
00:55:00 Clones (We're All) Flush the Fashion Alice Cooper Pat
00:55:00 Pain Flush the Fashion Alice Cooper Pat
01:00:00 Who Do We Think We Are Special Forces Alice Cooper Pat
01:00:00 Prettiest Cop on the Block Special Forces Alice Cooper Pat
01:00:00 Adaptable (Anything for You) Zipper Catches Skin Alice Cooper Pat
01:05:00 Former Lee Warmer DaDa Alice Cooper Pat
01:05:00 No Man's Land DaDa Alice Cooper Pat
01:05:00 Crawlin' Constrictor Alice Cooper Pat
01:10:00 Gail Raise Your Fist and Yell Alice Cooper Lisa
01:10:00 Give the Radio Back Raise Your Fist and Yell Alice Cooper Pat
01:10:00 Poison Trash Alice Cooper Pat
01:10:00 Feed My Frankenstein Hey Stoopid Alice Cooper Pat
01:15:00 Lost in America The Last Temptation Alice Cooper Lisa
01:15:00 Brutal Planet Brutal Planet Alice Cooper Pat
01:15:00 Sex, Death and Money Dragontown Alice Cooper Lisa
01:20:00 Novocaine The Eyes of Alice Cooper Alice Cooper Pat
01:20:00 Ghouls Gone Wild Welcome 2 My Nightmare Alice Cooper Pat
01:20:00 When Hell Comes Home Welcome 2 My Nightmare Alice Cooper Pat
01:25:00 Detroit City The Eyes of Alice Cooper Alice Cooper Lisa